Triangle of Life Earthquake Survival a Fraud
My sister who lives in Southern California sent me this but now I found out that DOUG COPP’S TRIANGLE OF LIFE THEORY IS A FRAUD!!! Sorry to post incorrect information previously!
From American Red Cross Headquarters:
Doug Copp, who is widely viewed in the emergency response community as a total fraud comes back to life after every major earthquake. He has a “triangle of life” theory that he promotes as an alternative to the Drop, Cover, and Hold On practice supported by every legitimate emergency/disaster manager that deals with an earthquake threat. Doug Copp and his “triangle of life” have been totally discredited by many including the American Red Cross. He was investigated for fraud and is generally a pain to legitimate emergency responders. In developing countries, where building codes are marginal or non-existent, his theory may hold some water, but in the United States, and California in particular, his theory is extremely dangerous and should never be used.
Alberquerque Journal Article
Sunday, July 11, 2004
Justice Dept. Inquiry Requested by Udall
Earlier this year, Doug Copp was awarded $649,000, tax-free, from the fund set up to compensate victims of 9/11. He says it’s not enough. But it’s doubtful he deserves anything. A Journal investigation found no evidence Copp did real rescue work in New York. Read the Journal’s full four-day series here.
By Leslie Linthicum
Journal Staff Writer
Rep. Tom Udall, D-N.M., whose office lobbied the 9/11 fund on Doug Copp’s behalf, made this statement:
Helping constituents who are encountering difficulties with federal agencies is one of the most important responsibilities I have as one of New Mexico’s U.S. Representatives. As a member of Congress, I cannot approve a claim or appeal, or compel any agency to act in favor of our constituents. Those types of decisions are made by the federal agency involved based on the facts of the case. At the same time, we have to take our constituents at their word. Surely there are bogus claims made, but the majority of citizens who turn to their elected officials are decent and hardworking people looking for help. If these allegations are confirmed, they are deeply troubling. It would seem that a number of well-intentioned New Mexicans were ensnared in a web of deception.
While the Department of Justice undoubtedly had a difficult task in administering the Sept. 11 Victim Compensation Fund, if these allegations are proven, there is absolutely no excuse for Fund administrators not verifying a claim. I am concerned that a fraudulent claim may have been processed and paid. Considering some claims were rejected for lack of proof, something seems to be terribly wrong if compensation was wrongly awarded in this case.
I wrote a letter to the Department of Justice asking them to launch an investigation into this matter as soon as I was made aware of the discrepancies. The Department of Justice has a moral and legal responsibility to get to the bottom of this complex case, and I look forward to their response.
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From: Lopes, RockySent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 1:18 PMTo: Lopes, RockySubject: FW: Earthquake Safety in the U.S.Information for: those involved in earthquake education. This message may be forwarded to others who are concerned.Recently it has been brought to my attention the email from Doug Copp, titled “Triangle of life,” is making its rounds again on the Internet. This message, below, originally distributed on July 14, 2000, remains the same. Its content was reviewed by the U.S. Geological Survey and the Federal Emergency Management Agency for concurrence.” Drop, Cover, and Hold On” is CORRECT, accurate, and APPROPRIATE for use in the UnitedStates for Earthquake safety. Mr. Copp’s assertions in his message that everyone is always crushed if they get under something is incorrect.————July 14, 2000 (updated August 25, 2004)Recently, the American Red Cross became aware of a challenge to the earthquake safety advice”Drop, Cover, and Hold On.” This is according to information from Mr. Doug Copp, the RescueChief and Disaster Manager of American Rescue Team International (a private company not affiliated with the U.S. Government or other agency.) He says that going underneath objects during an earthquake [as in children being told to get under their desks at school] is very dangerous, and fatal should the building collapse in a strong earthquake. He also states that”everyone who gets under a doorway when a building collapses is killed.” He further states that”if you are in bed when an earthquake happens, to roll out of bed next to it,” and he also says that”If an earthquake happens while you are watching television and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.”These recommendations are inaccurate for application in the United States and inconsistent with information developed through earthquake research. Mr. Copp based his statements on observations of damage to buildings after an earthquake in Turkey. It is like “apples and oranges” to compare building construction standards, techniques, engineering principles, and construction materials between Turkey and the United States.We at the American Red Cross have studied the research on the topic of earthquake safety for many years. We have benefited from extensive research done by the California Office of Emergency Services, California Seismic Safety Commission, professional and academic research organizations, and emergency management agencies, who have also studied the recommendation to “drop, cover, and hold on!” during the shaking of an earthquake. Personally, I have also benefited from those who preceded me in doing earthquake education in California since the Field Act was passed in 1933.What the claims made by Mr. Copp of ARTI, Inc., does not seem to distinguish is that the recommendation to “drop, cover, and hold on!” is a U.S.-based recommendation based on the U.S.Building Codes and construction standards. Much research in the United States has confirmed that “Drop, Cover, and Hold On!” has saved lives in the United States. Engineering researchers have demonstrated that very few buildings collapse or “pancake” in the U.S. as they might do in other countries. Using a website to show one picture of one U.S. building that had a partial collapse after a major quake in an area with thousands of buildings that did not collapse during the same quake is inappropriate and misleading.According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which collects data on injuries and deaths from all reportable causes in the U.S., as well as data from three Universitybasedstudies performed after the Loma Prieta (September 1989) and Northridge (January 1994) earthquakes in California, the following data are indicated: Loma Prieta: 63 deaths, approximately 3,700 people were injured. Most injuries happened as a result of the collapse of the Cypress Street section of I-880 in Oakland.Northridge: 57 deaths, 1,500 serious injuries. Most injuries were from falls caused by people trying to get out of their homes, or serious cuts and broken bones when people ran, barefooted, over broken glass (the earthquake happened in the early morning on a federal holiday when many people were still in bed.)There were millions of people in each of these earthquake-affected areas, and of those millions, many of them reported to have “dropped, covered, and held on” during the shaking of the earthquake. Therefore, we contend that “Drop, Cover, and Hold On” indeed SAVED lives, not killed people. Because the research continues to demonstrate that, in the U.S., “Drop, Cover, and Hold On!” works, the American Red Cross remains behind that recommendation. It is the simplest, reliable, and easiest method to teach people, including children.The American Red Cross has not recommended using a doorway for earthquake protection for more than a decade. The problem is that many doorways are not built into the structural integrity of a building, and may not offer protection. Also, simply put, doorways are not suitable for more than one person at a time.The Red Cross, remaining consistent with the information published in “Talking About Disaster: Guide for Standard Messages,” (visit http://www.disastereducation.org/guide.html) states that if you are in bed when an earthquake happens, to remain there. Rolling out of bed may lead to being injured by debris on the floor next to the bed. If you have done a good job of earthquake mitigation (that is, removing pictures or mirrors that could fall on a bed; anchoring tall bedroom furniture to wall studs, and the like), then you are safer to stay in bed rather than roll out of it during the shaking of an earthquake.Also, the Red Cross strongly advises not to try to move (that is, escape) during the shaking of an earthquake. The more and the longer distance that someone tries to move, the more likely they are to become injured by falling or flying debris, or by tripping, falling, or getting cut by damaged floors, walls, and items in the path of escape.Identifying potential “void areas” and planning on using them for earthquake protection is more difficult to teach, and hard to remember for people who are not educated in earthquake engineering principles. The Red Cross is not saying that identifying potential voids is wrong or inappropriate. What we are saying is that “Drop, Cover, and Hold On!” is NOT wrong — in theUnited States.The American Red Cross, being a U.S.-based organization, does not extend its recommendations to apply in other countries. What works here may not work elsewhere, so there is no dispute that the “void identification method” or the “Triangle of Life” may indeed be the best thing to teach in other countries where the risk of building collapse, even in moderate earthquakes, is great.Sincerely, Rocky Lopes, PhDManager, Community Disaster EducationPreparedness Department
American Red Cross National Headquarters202-303-8805
Here’s a link from CNN on Eastern U.S. Earthquake Check: http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/10/earthquake.fact.check/index.html?hpt=T2
EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP’S ARTICLE ON THE: ‘TRIANGLE OF LIFE’
My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world’s most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.
I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and am a member of many rescue teams from many countries.
I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters.
The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and
I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn’t at the time know that the children were told to hide under something.
Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the ‘triangle of life’.
The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the ‘triangles’ you
see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building.
TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY
1) Most everyone who simply ‘ducks and covers’ WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.
2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position. You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void.. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it.
3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but fewer squashed bodies than concrete slabs.
4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on The back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.
6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed!
7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different ‘moment of frequency’ (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads – horribly mutilated. Even if the building doesn’t collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.
8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible – It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked.
9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.
10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact. Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.
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Go to this link to read the California newspaper article stating that you were duped. Copp is the complete opposite of a fraud. Thge publisher of the ABQ Journal is the fraud. The owners of snopes and I speak of dreams are liars who would kill innocent children to get traffic to their websites. Disgusting people. If you are interested in the truth ot any desire to actually survive an earthquake then read the following and go to http://www.amerrescue.org and to the Doug Copp blog link. Also read the California newspaper expose of Lang and these scum.
http://dougcopp.wordpress.com/2010/10/14/a-great-injustice-you-were-duped/
A great Injustice. You were duped
Posted on October 14, 2010 by amerrescue
Below is a draft of an email that I plan to send to some of the thousands of newspapers tricked by Thompson Lang, AlBQ Journal in to publishing false material, for his personal revenge. The email draft is followed by the 2nd article, appearing in the California Newspaper. It is called What Really Happened at the World Trade Center. It is an expose of Thompson Lang.
“I am not angry with your newspaper; although, I am very angry with your policy of publishing articles without any verification, for truthfulness.
Normally, you expect newspapers to publish ‘real’ stories and not complete fabrications designed by the newspaper owner to use his newspaper as a ‘baseball bat’ to ‘beat the brains out of ‘ someone who ‘got in his way’. You were duped by someone who brings absolute disgrace to your profession.
In 2004, your newspaper carried the story referred to in today’s California newspaper story. Today’s California newspaper is titled: ‘What Really Happened at the World Trade Center’ . Your original article Headline referred to me as : The 911 Phoney’ and carried a photoshopped image of me with my penis sticking out of my pants; with references to me as a ‘knucklehead’, buffoon’, criminal, idiot, phony, fraud and much more. Lang, owner of the Albuquerque Journal, used his 5 front page articles, 24,000 word ‘attack’ to try to ‘push me over the edge’ and die from my 911 injuries. There is no doubt, in my mind, that Lang tried to kill me. I refused to die.
Nine (9) years later, I am still alive; however, I remain, very sick, permanently disabled and am being treated by several doctors, for many 911 illnesses; although, your newspaper published Lang’s articles demanding that the FBI imprison me for falsely claiming to be injured, at 911.
Follow, the link http:www//www.amerrescue.org to read a ‘library’ of hundreds of documents, a Time Magazine Article, 70 videos and the link to today’s California newspaper to ‘discover’ how you were DUPED.
Not only, was the article, that you carried completely false and obscene…it went way beyond ‘yellow’ journalism and was an act of pure vengeance and revenge by the owner of the newspaper, Thompson Lang. Lang was described by the world famous attorney, F. Lee Bailey, as a “power hungry bully”.
I tried to get ‘justice’, from the courts. Lang spent $1 million plus in legal fees, with 4 years of ‘motions’ before I ran out of resources, to continue. I was told that it was useless to take a wealthy and demonic character like Lang, to court. Indeed, he openly brags that he controls the election of every elected official, in New Mexico ( that includes judges) , via his media monopoly and his vast inherited wealth. The only justice that I got was ‘in my ass’.
I include the text of the California Article exposing Lang and the way he tricked you into helping him destroy myself, the world’s most experienced rescue team and resulted in the death of thousands of victims who died because Lang’s vengeance prevented us from saving them.
If you are a person, with the most minute amount of decency then I expect you to do 2 things. First, to publish an apology to me and my rescue team stating that you were tricked, by Lang. Secondly, to express your disdain with Lang for having tricked you into helping him destroy a dedicated, all volunteer, rescue team.
I do not have the resources to send this email to the several thousand newspapers who carried the original false story. Lang, in his normal ‘over the top way’ sent the article, via Associated press, other news agencies and had it translated and sent to dozens of countries that ARTI had saved lives in.
His vengeance was like ‘dropping an atomic bomb’. You were part of it.
Do the right thing.”
doug copp
founder of ARTI ( the world’s most experienced rescue and disaster mitigation/management organization) and the Discoverer of the ‘triangle of life’ to take building collapse survivability from 2% using ‘duck and cover’ to 90% using the ‘triangle of life’
ARTI is All Unpaid Volunteers willing to stand up to and fight USA insurance companies and bureaucrats who consider it cheaper and less trouble if victims die rather than survive with possible trauma and sue ( less profit for insurance companies and higher premiums for bureaucrats)
“Now, that my 911 injuries have made it impossible for me, to crawl into collapsed buildings, I thank God for allowing me to continue saving lives. I am willing to sacrifice my life, my health, my reputation and endure any attack, slander, burden or harm to fulfill this life purpose. PERIOD.”
see http://www.amerrescue.org for hundreds of pages of testimonials, videos, docs. Complete information to survive major disaster, learned from doug’s searching 896 collapsed buildings and witnessing 1+ million collapsed buildings, at more than 100 major disaster events; throughout the entire world… amerrescue@aol.com http://www.amerrescue.org
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Thank you for your rebuttal to this heated controversy.
Thanks for all the info. I shall follow my own common sense in a crisis and not worry too much about “experts, dupes, frauds, liars, phonies, heroes, etc.” if & when I need to survive something.
respectfully,
jim
To Jim,
It’s so hard to know who is an “expert” these days that I am glad your BS meter is working well.
It seems pretty simple, find a single actual expert in earthquake safety that agrees with Mr. Copp and his theories. Find a single documented case where he or anyone from his “organization” have been credited with saving a life after an earthquake.
Problem is, there aren’t any.
He’s no expert at anything except gaming the system.
To John,
It’s sad that Doug Copp is so caught up in aggrandizing himself that he loses sight of what is truly at stake.
Really? I don’t think he or his “organization” have lost sight of anything, he and it are a fraud and they continue to perpetuate that fraud on unsuspecting people.
He has never been about anything other making money off of tragedy, it’s hard to lost sight of something you’ve never seen.
I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe in third world countries where the buildings are built as solidly, he truly believed in his findings but then the PR got to his head and he kept on perpetuating even when proven wrong. But maybe the attention he is getting is what he’s seeking (and that can be lucrative when parlayed into a reality TV show or something like that!).
Now the the NY Supreme Court has ruled in favor of the publisher and NBC and dismissed the claims by Mr. Coop society will show the fraud he really is.
To Quarl Inmon,
Thank you for the update on Doug Copp. I think he really is a fraud and he should be ashamed of trying to turn himself into a media star based on the misfortunes of others!
Please forward to everyone you care about. So they can be safe.
Earthquake Turkey, Oct 2011,The Triangle of Life has Saved Lives Today. More Survivors Using The Triangle of Life Continue To Be Rescued. 1 Million People Trained by Aksigorta Insurance Company / AKUT To Use The Triangle of Life
extracts from http://dougcopp.me/2011/10/23/earthquake-turkey-oct-2011the-triangle-of-life-has-saved-lives-today-and-more-survivors-using-the-triangle-of-life-continue-to-be-rescued-1-million-people-trained-by-turkish-insurance-company-ak/
The Blog Article This article will take a minute to load; since, it has complete and convincing material to save your life. If you study this page then you and your family will survive building collapse…even if everyone else dies…you will survive. Just as the Turks have survived.
“As CNN Reports; according to the Ministry of Civil Defense of Turkey, an unprecedented LARGE number of victims have survived the collapsed buildings and an unprecedented LOW percentage of deaths have occurred.
The Triangle of Life was taught to these victims and is responsible for their survival. Thank God almighty that USA Insurers and the bureaucrats who are insured by them have been unable to stop us from saving these lives. Instead of the usual 2 percent survival rate from ‘duck and cover. The survival rates has been increased to 80 percent ( statistics at 2nd day of earthquake ).
Watch MSNBC TV Coverage of AKUT as they rescue victims who survived in the rubble, using the triangle of life. Look closely and you will notice that these victims are NOT under desks or any other objects. The ceiling came down and rested on big objects on either side of the victim. The victim survived uncrushed. This is the only way to survive building collapse. Notice triangular shapes everywhere, in the rubble. These ‘safe areas’, triangles of life are as natural to building collapse as gravity.”
“The “Life goes on, Turkey” (Hayata Devam Türkiye) campaign is hitting the road to raise awareness about the risks of earthquakes, fires and floods through the use of a quake simulator and interactive theatrical skits. It is a partnership between the Search and Rescue Association of Turkey, or AKUT, and Aksigorta, an insurance company.
Standing beside the campaign’s two bright red trailer trucks, Namık Arıkol, the project’s general coordinator, with long hair and dressed in a black t-shirt and leather vest, looks like he could be preparing for an upcoming rock concert. Arıkol, however, is interested in preparing Turkey for something more dangerous.
“Ninety-five percent of Turkey lies in an earthquake region,” Arıkol told the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review. “Turks wrongly think earthquakes result from only God’s work or fate, and structurally weak buildings remain in place to kill people.
“The project aims to continue for five years and eventually reach a total of 5 million people in 50 cities and 250 districts in Turkey, according to Burçak Seyis, the representative of Aksigorta for the project.” By Following the links,””
Below is the Triangle of Life Brochure given to 1 million people, in Turkey, to date. It has pictures, images and text instructing people..NOT to get under a desk, It Shows you to Get Next to Your Desk; NOT to get under furniture, Get Next to furniture; and Showing you Triangles of Life, in Rubble, to survive. DO NOT DUCK AND COVER. YOU WILL BE CRUSHED TO DEATH!
Background:
Doug Copp was asked by a mother, of an American Student /hiker, to go, to Turkey and locate her son; who had been missing, in a wilderness area of Turkey, for 8 months. The US Military, US Embassy, Turkish Mountain Climbers and locals had searched for him without success. Doug went there planning to spend a couple of weeks searching. Doug found his remains, the first day.
This gave Doug extra free time to spend, in Turkey. Doug asked AKUT. the local mountain club: ” What happens when people are trapped in collapsed buildings? Who rescues them? ( Doug has trained hundreds of rescue teams and had planned to train a Turkish team.)”
The reply was: “Nobody. Nothing happens. People arn’t rescued.”
Doug said: ” No, let me explain. I mean…the people are alive and need to be rescued..’
The response was: “Nothing is done. It is the will of Allah.”
Doug said:” ” I mean..the people are screaming for help..they are alive..and trapped”
The answer was harsh;” Nothing is done..the rubble is taken to the ‘dump’……the people believe it is the will of Allah….they are left to die.”
Doug said to AKUT:” You guys are well educated, athletic, cultured, sophisticated..why don’t you let me train you to rescue people??”
The members of AKUT huddled together, spoke together and then turned to me, saying:” Sure. We can do that.”
Doug trained the mountain club to rescue people..and returned to Turkey many times, to train, lecture to the government and to help AKUT get funding and official recognition from the Turkish Government. The scientific triangle of Life test took place with the Federal Government, City of Istanbul, University of Istanbul and others involved. Movie Stars took part and it was broadcast on National Turkish TV and throughout the world, on Real TV.
AKUT has logged almost 2,000 rescues; since, Doug started the rescue team. The first thing that Doug teaches any rescuer is how to save their life and how to ensure that their family survives. ” A dead rescuer saves..nobody.”
The seed of the “Triangle of Life’ was planted.
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“The Blog article is complete and free. As unpaid volunteers, we only want to save lives.”
doug copp
founder of ARTI ( the world’s most experienced rescue and disaster mitigation/management organization) and the Discoverer of the ‘triangle of life’ to take building collapse survivability from 2% using ‘duck and cover’ to 90% using the ‘triangle of life’
ARTI is composed of All Unpaid Volunteers
To Doug and Readers,
Please see the American Red Cross response to Doug Copp which refutes his theories.
It is ethically and morally and ethically reprehensible to participate in this slander of my name by referring to me as a fraud when you can easily see that it is a complete and total lie, by going to
http://dougcopp.me/
You are supporting people who would allow children to be killed because of shareholder return for the insurance companies which insure USA School Boards.
Anyway, it is wonderful to have saved so many lives this week and well worth the abuse.
You should do the right thing.
doug copp
To Doug Copp,
The American Red Cross is calling you a fraud and they have a lot of credibility. I am siding with them! You should ask yourself why they are calling you a fraud and if the message that you put out is endangering people and children with erroneous information.
If the information I have is incorrect, please reply back with links from credible sources that say your method is valid. If not, there is a particular circle of hell reserved for people like you.
The safest place in an earthquake? Far away from Doug “the faker” Copp